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brucewaynesbodaciousbooty said: Why shouldn't we be using the asterisk? If you don't mind my asking.
the first three posts here explain
again another reminder to try to use my two search bars before asking me stuff like this. searching trans* in the second search bar would have brought you these results
Oh wow, I wish I had known about this earlier. If you’re cis and use the asterisk on the end of the word “trans,” I suggest taking a look at the link and reconsidering. I’ll have to do more research on the issue.
From my understanding, all that adding an asterisk does is imply that anyone with a queer gender identity besides “trans woman” or “trans man”, such as non-binary, genderqueer etc, are something similar to but not exactly “trans”, when they’re just as much trans as the former two identities.
Anyone whose gender doesn’t precisely match that which they were designated at birth may identify as trans, by my understanding.
i mean, arguably it could imply that, but this is actually more complicated then you make it out to be here because while genderqueer ppl like me can identify as trans, for whatever reason not all of us do?
but at the same time, i have a lot of complicated feelings about that. i used to not identify as trans for fear of erasing my relative privilege compared to a lot of trans people who are a lot more visibly trans than i am, esp since i’ve done very little to transition (aside from changing my wardrobe a lot, and some of my mannerisms)- but then again, not all binary trans people do a lot to transition either. and sometimes i wonder if genderqueer people not id-ing as trans (including myself as i used to not) is internalized transphobia—sometimes even transmisogyny. because amab nonbinary people are perceived as and treated like trans women are (hence Sasha who is agender and amab being lit on fire for wearing a skirt), but us afab nonbinary people have an easier time escaping a lot of transphobia and are immune from transmisogyny—transmisogyny ensures amab trans people of all identities face tons of transphobia and hatred and risk of violence - but gender policing isn’t so strong against afab people- so it’s easy for us to divorce our identity from “the transsexual” which is characterized as freakish, monsterous and degraded
but trans people who are perceived as cis are privileged (and that includes me) - and this happens a lot to nonbinary afab people like me who even when we present as our chosen gender, often are perceived as cis (even when we aren’t read as the right gender) - an afab person wearing boy’s clothes isn’t as often coded trans the way an amab person wearing even one feminine accessory like a skirt is
so i think the bigger issues around * don’t have to do with nonbinary v binary people, but afab v amab people. the * is there to supposedly include all nonbinary people, but they fail to recognize that it’s mostly afab nonbinary people who don’t see themselves as trans and have the privilege to see themselves that way. thus * tends to focus the issue on afab nonbinary people and erase amab nonbinary people, and keep the other issues firmly unaddressed and even make them worse (i.e. striving to include all the afab nonbinary people without recognizing that amab nonbinary people are constantly erased and there’s huge differences between how afab trans people and amab trans people are treated)
because, like i said before, us afab nonbinary people have something to gain from being perceived as “something other” than trans - as not being seen as “quite trans” because being trans is so denigrated and we have the privilege to “de-trans” ourselves in a way that amab trans people, including binary trans women, do not. Trans men, too, often, by virtue of actively identifying as a boy/man, may be more visibly trans than many afab nonbinary people. And yet, trans men also can still distance themselves from the visibility and scrutiny and violence trans women experience, and in my experience, more trans men eschew the label “trans” than trans women do. So I’m becoming more and more suspicious of afab trans people who don’t identify as trans.
In short: nonbinary afab people have something to gain from the *, because we can more easily de-trans ourselves while amab trans people, including trans women, only lose out from it as they continue to exp violence and degradation and we separate ourselves from them - conveniently only using statistics of violence and assault against them to gain sympathy without addressing our privilege
Something so true that no one else can know it
have we every been anything more than hyphenated?